Citizen Cincom M16-VIII
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Key Specifications
Max Spindle
maximum machining diameter
maximum machining length
maximum drilling diameter for main spindle
maximum front tapping diameter tap die
main spindle through hole diameter
How much does the Citizen Cincom M16-VIII cost?
Estimated price range
Our best estimate for a swiss-type lathe in this class — not a quote from Citizen Machinery. Configuration moves it a long way.
Overview
The Citizen Cincom M16-VIII is a 16 mm sliding-headstock automatic lathe with three tool posts: a gang tool post, a turret and a back tool post, each with its own axes and rotary tools. Main and back spindles both run to 12,000 rpm, the machine holds 36+α tools, and one chucking covers 200 mm.
The turret is what separates the M16 from a gang-type Swiss lathe. Citizen's table gives it X3, Y3 and Z3 axes rapiding at 32 m/min and rotary tools that drill 5 mm and tap M5, driven by a 0.69 kW motor of its own. With the gang post, the turret and the back tool post all able to cut, operations on the front and back of the part can overlap, which is how a machine of this layout shortens the cycle on complex small parts.
The back end is unusually generous for a 16 mm machine. Up to 125 mm of the workpiece can protrude from the 16 mm back spindle chuck, so long parts can be supported for back machining. The back spindle drills 8 mm and taps M6, and back rotary tools drill 5 mm and tap M5 at up to 8,000 rpm on a 0.75 kW motor. The Y2 axis rapids at 8 m/min and X2 at 16 m/min, slower than the 32 m/min of the other axes.
At the front, drilling reaches 10 mm with M8 taps through a 20 mm spindle bore. The main spindle motor is listed at 2.2/3.7 kW and the back spindle motor at 0.75/1.5 kW. Turning tools are 10 mm square and sleeves 19.05 mm.
The machine weighs 2,950 kg, a heavy frame for this bar size, with a 1,150 mm centre height. Power requirement is 7.9 kVA, with 5.4 kVA average under load.
Full Specifications
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| Maximum Machining Diameter | 16 mm dia. |
| Maximum Machining Length | 200 mm/chuck |
| Maximum Drilling Diameter for Main Spindle | 10 mm dia. |
| Maximum Front Tapping Diameter Tap Die | M8 |
| Main Spindle Through Hole Diameter | 20 mm dia. |
| Max Spindle Speed | 12,000 rpm |
| Maximum Chuck Diameter of Back Spindle | 16 mm dia. |
| Maximum Protrusion Length of The Back Spindle Workpiece | 125 mm |
| Maximum Drilling Diameter in Back Machining Process | 8 mm dia. |
| Maximum Tapping Diameter in Back Machining Process | M6 |
| Sub Spindle Speed | 12,000 rpm |
| Gang Tool Rotary Tool Maximum Drilling Diameter | 5 mm dia. |
| Gang Tool Rotary Tool Maximum Tapping Diameter | M5 |
| Spindle Speed of The Gang Rotary Tool | 8,000 rpm |
| Maximum Drilling Diameter for Turret Rotary Tool | 5 mm dia. |
| Maximum Tapping Diameter for Turret Rotary Tool | M5 |
| Maximum Drilling Diameter for Back Rotary Tool | 5 mm dia. |
| Maximum Tapping Diameter for Back Rotary Tool | M5 |
| Spindle Speed of The Back Rotary Tool | 8,000 rpm |
| Number of Tools to Be Mounted | 36+α |
| Tool Size Turning Tool | 10 mm Sq. |
| Tool Size Sleeve | 19.05 mm dia. |
| Rapid Feed Rate X1 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate X2 Axis | 16 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate X3 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Y1 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Y2 Axis | 8 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Y3 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Z1 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Z2 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Rapid Feed Rate Z3 Axis | 32 m/min |
| Motors for Spindle Drive | 2.2/3.7 kW |
| Motors for Back Spindle Drive | 0.75/1.5 kW |
| Motors for Tool Spindle Drive Gang Tool Post | 0.69 kW |
| Motors for Tool Spindle Drive Turret | 0.69 kW |
| Motors for Back Tool Spindle Drive | 0.75 kW |
| Motors for Cutting Coolant Oil | 0.4 kW |
| Power Requirement | 7.9 kVA |
| Load Operation Average Power | 5.4 kVA |
| Center Height | 1,150 mm |
| Machine Weight | 2,950 kg |
Specifications sourced from cmj.citizen.co.jp — verified 2026-10-03
Strengths & Limitations
Strengths
- Three tool posts (gang, turret and back), each with rotary tools
- 12,000 rpm on both main and back spindles
- Up to 125 mm of workpiece protrusion from the back spindle
- 36+α tools across the three posts
- Turret axes X3, Y3 and Z3 rapid at 32 m/min
Limitations
- Bar capacity is limited to 16 mm
- All rotary tools are limited to 5 mm drilling and M5 tapping
- Y2 rapids at 8 m/min and X2 at 16 m/min
- Main spindle motor listed at 2.2/3.7 kW, so cuts are light at full bar size
Best For
Frequently Asked Questions
01
Three: a gang tool post, a turret and a back tool post. Each has rotary tools that drill up to 5 mm and tap up to M5. Gang and back rotary tools run at up to 8,000 rpm. The gang post and the turret each have a 0.69 kW rotary tool motor and the back tool post a 0.75 kW motor.
02
The maximum machining length is 200 mm per chuck. For back machining, up to 125 mm of the workpiece can protrude from the back spindle, which takes parts up to 16 mm in diameter.
03
X1, X3, Y1, Y3, Z1, Z2 and Z3 rapid at 32 m/min. X2 rapids at 16 m/min and Y2 at 8 m/min. Both spindles run to 12,000 rpm.
04
The Cincom M16-V, an earlier type not in Citizen's current lineup, is listed with the same 16 mm bar, 12,000 rpm main spindle and 200 mm machining length, and a weight of 2,900kg against 2,950 kg for the M16-VIII. The Cincom M16-V lists 8,000 rpm for the rotary tools on all tool posts; the M16-VIII table gives that speed for the gang and back posts.
05
A power requirement of 7.9 kVA, with 5.4 kVA average under load. Motors listed are 2.2/3.7 kW for the main spindle, 0.75/1.5 kW for the back spindle and 0.4 kW for the coolant pump.
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