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Citizen Cincom L20-VIII

Est. $180,000 - $280,000 Specs verified 2026-10-03 · cmj.citizen.co.jp Updated 2026-10-03
Citizen Cincom L20-VIII Swiss-Type Lathes

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Key Specifications

Max Spindle

max. 10,000 rpm

Tool Capacity

38

max machining diameter

20 mm dia.(25 mm dia.OP.)

max machining length

200 mm per chucking

max machining length gb 25mm dia spec

188 mm per chucking

max machining length gbl

max. 50 mm per chucking (GBL)

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How much does the Citizen Cincom L20-VIII cost?

Estimated price range

Est.$180,000 - $280,000

Our best estimate for a swiss-type lathe in this class — not a quote from Citizen Machinery. Configuration moves it a long way.

Citizen Cincom L20-VIII — price

Est.$180,000 - $280,000

This is our best estimate for a machine of this type and class, built from published prices of comparable swiss-type lathes and typical dealer pricing. Citizen Machinery has not published a list price for the Citizen Cincom L20-VIII that we can cite. Treat it as a planning number, not a quote.

What moves the final price

  • Spindle, control and probing options
  • Tool changer capacity and tooling package
  • Automation — pallet changers, bar feeders, robot cells
  • Freight, rigging, installation and training
  • Region, dealer and time of year

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Overview

The Citizen Cincom L20-VIII is the entry type of the third-generation L20 sliding-headstock lathe: a 20 mm bar machine (25 mm as an option) with a 10,000 rpm main spindle, a 10,000 rpm back spindle and room for up to 38 tools. Citizen's series page calls the type VIII the cost-effective end of a five-model lineup that runs up to the type XIIB5 with simultaneous 5-axis control.

Most of the tooling lives on the gang tool post, which carries 6 turning tools and 25 rotary tool positions. Those rotary tools drill to 8 mm and tap to M6 at up to 6,000 rpm (rated 4,500 rpm) on a 1.0 kW motor. Ordering the S3 high-power specification lifts them to 9,000 rpm and 2.2 kW, and raises the total load current from 37 A to 41 A. Beside the gang post sit 3 front drilling tools and 4 back drilling tools.

What the type VIII leaves out shows in its column. There are no back rotary tool rows and no Y2 rapid, both of which the Cincom L20-X column lists. Work on the cut-off end is therefore drilling and tapping from the back spindle: 8 mm drills, M8 cutting taps, with 40 mm of workpiece protruding from the back collet. If the part needs cross holes or flats on the back end, look at the higher types before ordering.

In guide-bush mode one chucking covers 200 mm at 20 mm, or 188 mm with the 25 mm specification. Without the guide bush the stroke drops to 50 mm per chucking, enough for short, stiff parts and less bar remnant. Finished parts up to 130 mm long can be ejected. The front spindle motor is rated 2.2/3.7/5.5 kW (continuous/15 minute/10%ED) and the back spindle 1.5/2.2/3.7 kW (continuous/40%ED/10%ED). All main axes rapid at 32 m/min.

Installation needs 8.3 kVA, a 60 A main breaker, AC 200V ±10% and 0.5 MPa air. The machine weighs 2,630 kg on a W2,222 × D1,265 × H1,835 mm footprint.

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Full Specifications

Parameter Value
Max Machining Diameter 20 mm dia.(25 mm dia.OP.)
Max Machining Length 200 mm per chucking
Max Machining Length Gb 25mm Dia Spec 188 mm per chucking
Max Machining Length Gbl max. 50 mm per chucking (GBL)
Max Drilling Diameter 10 mm dia.
Max Tapping Diameter M8 (cutting tap)
Spindle Bore 26.4 mm dia.
Max Spindle Speed max. 10,000 rpm
Sub Spindle Chuck Diameter dia. 20 mm, dia. 25 mm[1”]option
Max Part Ejection Length 130 mm
Max Workpiece Protrusion Length of Back Spindle 40 mm
Back Machining Max Drilling Diameter 8 mm dia.
Back Machining Max Tapping Diameter M8 (cutting tap)
Sub Spindle Speed max. 10,000 rpm
Gang Tool Post Rotary Tool Max Drilling Diameter 8 mm dia.
Gang Tool Post Rotary Tool Max Tapping Diameter M6 (cutting tap)
Gang Tool Post Rotary Tool Spindle Rotation max. 6,000 rpm (rated speed: 4,500 rpm)
Gang Tool Post Rotary Tool S3 high-power motor specifications: max. 9,000 rpm (rated speed: 9,000 rpm)
Rotary Tools on The Opposite Tool Post max. 6,000 rpm (rated speed:4,500 rpm)
Tool Capacity 38
Number of Mountable Tools Turning Tools on The Gang Tool Pos 6
Number of Mountable Tools Rotary Tools on The Gang Tool Post 25
Number of Mountable Tools Front Drilling Tools 3
Number of Mountable Tools Back Drilling Tools 4
Tool Size Turning Tools 12 mm Sq. (13 mm Sq., 16 mm Sq.)
Tool Size Sleeve 25 mm dia.(GDS107, 210) 19.05 mm dia.
Chuck Bushing Front Spindle Collet Chuck FC034-M, FC071-M(φ 25 mm [1”])
Chuck Bushing Back Spindle Collet Chuck FC034-M-K, FC071-M-K(φ 25 mm [1”])
Chuck Bushing Rotary Tool Collet Chuck ER11, ER16
Chuck Bushing Chuck for Drill Sleeve ER11, ER16
Chuck Bushing Guide Bushing WFG206-M, DFG206-M, FG521-M(φ25 mm [1"])
Rapid Feed Rate X1 Y1 Z1 X2 Z2 Axis 32 m/min
Motor for Front Spindle Drive 2.2/3.7/5.5 kW (continuous/15 minute/10%ED ratings)
Motor for Back Spindle Drive 1.5/2.2/3.7 kW (continuous/40%ED/10%ED ratings)
Motor for Driving Rotary Tools on The Gang Tool Post 1.0 kW(2.2 kW with S3 high-power motor specifications)
Motor for Front Rotary Tool Drive 0.75 kW
Motor for Back Rotary Tool Drive 0.75 kW
For Coolant 0.4 kW
Rated Power Consumption 8.3 kVA
Load Operation Average Power Consumption 4.5 kVA
Total Load Current 37 A(41 A with S3 high-power motor specifications)
Main Breaker Capacity 60 A
Power Supply Voltage AC 200V ± 10%
Pneumatic Device Required Pressure 0.5 MPa
Pneumatic Device Required Flow Rate 52/ 55/ 177 L/min (Power ON/Normal/ With air blow)
Floor Space Required W2,222 × D1,265 × H1,835 mm
Center Height 1,050 mm
Machine Weight 2,630 kg

Specifications sourced from cmj.citizen.co.jp — verified 2026-10-03

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Strengths & Limitations

Strengths

  • Up to 38 tools, with 25 rotary tool positions and 6 turning tools on the gang tool post
  • 20 mm bar capacity with a 25 mm option, and 200 mm per chucking in guide-bush mode
  • Can also run guide-bushless, with 50 mm per chucking for short parts
  • Optional S3 high-power gang rotary drive: 9,000 rpm and 2.2 kW in place of 6,000 rpm and 1.0 kW
  • Front spindle motor rated 2.2/3.7/5.5 kW (continuous/15 minute/10%ED) with 32 m/min rapids on all main axes

Limitations

  • No back rotary tool rows in its column, so back-end work is limited to drilling to 8 mm and tapping to M8
  • Standard gang rotary tools reach only 6,000 rpm (rated 4,500 rpm), slow for very small drills
  • Guide-bushless machining is limited to 50 mm per chucking
  • Only 4 back drilling tools, against 8 on the Cincom L20-X
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Best For

Turned parts up to 20 mm bar, or 25 mm with the option Parts with front-end milling and cross drilling from the gang rotary tools Short parts machined guide-bushless, up to 50 mm per chucking Shops that need back drilling and tapping but no back-end milling
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Frequently Asked Questions

01 Where does the L20-VIII sit in the Cincom L20 lineup?

Citizen describes the third-generation L20 as five models running from the cost-effective type VIII to the type XIIB5, which allows simultaneous 5-axis control. The type VIII has no back rotary tools and no Y2 axis in its column, carries 4 back drilling tools and holds up to 38 tools in total.

02 How long a part can the L20-VIII machine in one chucking?

With the guide bush, 200 mm per chucking at 20 mm bar and 188 mm with the 25 mm specification. Guide-bushless, the limit is 50 mm per chucking. These are chucking strokes, not part lengths; longer parts are made with re-chucking. Finished parts up to 130 mm long can be ejected.

03 What do the rotary tools on the gang tool post handle?

They drill up to 8 mm and tap up to M6 with cutting taps. The standard drive runs at up to 6,000 rpm (rated 4,500 rpm) on a 1.0 kW motor. The S3 high-power specification raises the speed to 9,000 rpm and the motor to 2.2 kW. There are 25 rotary tool positions on the gang tool post.

04 Can the L20-VIII machine the back of the part?

It can drill and tap from the back spindle: up to 8 mm drilling and M8 cutting taps, with 4 back drilling tools and 40 mm of workpiece protrusion. Its column lists no back rotary tools, so milled or cross-drilled features on the back end are outside what this type is specified for.

05 What power and air does the L20-VIII need?

A rated power consumption of 8.3 kVA (4.5 kVA average under load), AC 200V ±10%, a 60 A main breaker and a total load current of 37 A, or 41 A with the S3 high-power motor. Air must be supplied at 0.5 MPa, with consumption rising to 177 L/min when air blow is used.

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