Chiron DZ 25P
Key Specifications
X Travel
Y Travel
Z Travel
Max Spindle
Spindle Taper
Tool Capacity
Overview
The Chiron DZ 25P is the production-optimized variant of Chiron's largest twin-spindle platform, adding a pallet changer to the 25 Series for maximum spindle utilization on medium-to-large 5-axis parts. The "P" stands for production — specifically, this machine is positioned by Chiron for double-spindle aluminum machining with automated workpiece exchange, targeting the highest-throughput applications in automotive and aerospace.
The DZ 25P shares the 25 Series platform with X/Y/Z travels of 830 x 630 x 630 mm (32.7 x 24.8 x 24.8 in) per spindle. Like the DZ 25S, each spindle has independent X and Z axis movement, enabling tool changes on one spindle while the other cuts. The addition of the pallet changer means parts load and unload outside the machining zone while the spindles are active, pushing utilization above 90%. This combination of twin spindle, independent axes, and pallet automation represents Chiron's maximum throughput configuration.
Spindle options include HSK-A63 at 20,000 RPM for high-speed aluminum work and HSK-A100 with 400 Nm for heavier materials, though Chiron specifically positions the DZ 25P for aluminum production where high-speed spindles drive maximum metal removal. Tool magazines hold up to 2 x 77 tools. The mineral-cast bed, linear direct drives, and water-cooled axes maintain the precision and thermal stability needed for tight-tolerance production.
New DZ 25P machines price between $750,000 and $1,100,000, making them one of Chiron's most expensive standard configurations. The investment is justified in high-volume aluminum production where the combination of twin-spindle doubling, independent axis operation, and pallet automation can replace 4-5 standalone machines. Competitors include large production machining centers from Heller, Grob, and MAG. Used DZ 25P units from 2017-2023 trade between $400,000 and $750,000.
The DZ 25P is not a job shop machine. It is a dedicated production cell for manufacturers running continuous high-volume programs on identical aluminum parts where every second of spindle utilization translates directly to revenue.
Full Specifications
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| X-Axis Travel | 830 mm (32.7 in) per spindle |
| Y-Axis Travel | 630 mm (24.8 in) |
| Z-Axis Travel | 630 mm (24.8 in) |
| Max Spindle Speed | 20,000 RPM standard (up to 40,000 RPM optional) |
| Spindle Taper | HSK-A63 standard (HSK-A100 optional) |
| Spindle Torque | Up to 400 Nm (295 ft-lb) with HSK-A100 option |
| Spindle Configuration | Twin-spindle with independent X and Z axes |
| Spindle Distance | 800 mm (31.5 in) |
| A Axis Range | Direct drive tilt axis |
| C Axis Range | 360° continuous direct drive |
| Max Workpiece Diameter | 1,000 mm (39.4 in) |
| Max Workpiece Weight | 500 kg (1,102 lb) per pallet position |
| Tool Capacity | Up to 2 x 77 tools |
| Workpiece Changer | Integrated pallet changer |
| Axis Drives | Linear direct drives on X, Y, Z; direct drives on A, C |
| Machine Bed | Mineral cast |
| CNC Control | Siemens SINUMERIK 840D sl |
| Thermal Management | Water-cooled drives on all axes and spindle |
Specifications compiled from manufacturer literature and industry references. Not independently verified against a published spec sheet — confirm with the manufacturer or an authorised dealer before making a purchasing decision.
Strengths & Limitations
Strengths
- Maximum throughput configuration in Chiron's lineup: twin spindle + independent axes + pallet changer delivers 4-5x single-spindle output
- Independent X and Z axes per spindle allow tool changes during cutting, further reducing non-cutting time
- Pallet changer eliminates load/unload downtime, pushing spindle utilization above 90% on both spindles
- Largest work envelope in Chiron's twin-spindle range handles medium-to-large aluminum parts up to 1,000 mm diameter
- Linear direct drives on all axes deliver zero-backlash dynamics for precision production at high speed
- Optimized for high-speed aluminum production where cutting speed directly drives revenue
Limitations
- Starting price around $750,000 makes the DZ 25P one of the most expensive machines in Chiron's standard lineup
- Both spindles must run identical parts — zero flexibility for mixed-production work
- Purpose-built for aluminum production; steel and titanium work is possible but not the machine's primary design intent
- Large machine footprint and weight demand significant factory infrastructure planning
- Chiron's service network for large production machines in North America is limited compared to established competitors
Best For
Frequently Asked Questions
01
Chiron quotes the DZ 25P per configuration; no list price is published. This is the top of Chiron's twin-spindle production range, with 830 mm of X per spindle, 1,000 mm workpiece diameter, 500 kg per pallet position and up to 2 x 77 tools, so the variables are spindle choice (up to 40,000 RPM, or the HSK-A100 torque option), magazine fill, and the automation feeding the pallet changer. Fixtures for two spindles running identical parts are a real project cost that no machine quote includes. Used units come up occasionally, but the program and fixture package usually matters more than the hour meter.
02
Both share the same 25 Series platform, travels and independent axis control. The DZ 25P adds a pallet changer for automated workpiece exchange, so the spindles keep cutting while the next part is loaded instead of idling through load and unload, and that is where its higher price comes from. Choose the 25P for production programs where the cycle is short enough that load and unload is a meaningful fraction of it; on longer cycles the 25S gives up much less and is the cheaper machine.
03
No. While Chiron positions the DZ 25P specifically for double-spindle aluminum machining, the HSK-A100 torque spindle option with 400 Nm handles steel, stainless, and titanium. However, the machine's dynamics and design are optimized for high-speed aluminum work where the twin-spindle and pallet automation advantages are maximized.
04
The DZ 25P delivers approximately 4-5x the output of a single-spindle machine without automation. The twin spindle doubles output, independent axis control adds another 5-10% through simultaneous tool changes, and the pallet changer adds 10-20% by eliminating load/unload downtime. The compounding effect is substantial.
05
The integrated pallet changer provides buffer for brief unmanned periods. For true lights-out operation, Chiron offers additional automation packages including robot loading systems and larger pallet pools that extend unmanned run time. These are typically integrated at time of order.
06
The DZ 25P is well-suited for EV battery housings, motor housings, inverter cases, and structural castings from aluminum. The 1,000 mm workpiece diameter and 500 kg capacity accommodate the large aluminum components that define EV powertrain and body structures. Twin-spindle production rates align with the volumes required for EV manufacturing.
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