Machine Comparison
Hardinge Elite 51 vs Hardinge Talent 42/65
Hardinge vs Hardinge · CNC Lathes
Summary
The Hardinge Elite 51 and the Hardinge Talent 42/65 are Hardinge precision lathes with the same 11 kW (15 hp) spindle rating and near-identical weights, 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) against 3,200 kg (7,055 lb). The Elite 51 has the larger working zone: 508 mm (20 in) of Z travel and turning length against 305 mm (12.0 in), and 356 mm (14 in) of swing against 260 mm (10.2 in).
The Elite 51 also takes 51 mm (2 in) bar against 42 mm (1.65 in) and has 200 mm (7.87 in) of X travel against 160 mm (6.3 in). The Talent 42/65 is the quicker machine, with 6,000 rpm against 5,000 RPM and 24 m/min (945 ipm) rapids against 20 m/min (787 IPM).
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Hardinge Elite 51 | Hardinge Talent 42/65 |
|---|---|---|
| X-Axis Travel | 200 mm (7.87 in) ▲ | 160 mm (6.3 in) |
| Z-Axis Travel | 508 mm (20 in) ▲ | 305 mm (12.0 in) |
| Max Turning Diameter | 356 mm (14 in) ▲ | 260 mm (10.2 in) |
| Max Turning Length | 508 mm (20 in) ▲ | 305 mm (12.0 in) |
| Bar Capacity | 51 mm (2 in) ▲ | 42 mm (1.65 in) |
| Max Spindle Speed | 5,000 RPM | 6,000 rpm ▲ |
| Spindle Power | 11 kW (15 HP) continuous | 11 kW (15 hp) |
| Rapid Traverse | 20 m/min (787 IPM) | 24 m/min (945 ipm) ▲ |
| Control | Fanuc 0i-TF Plus | Fanuc 0i-TF |
| Machine Weight | 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) | 3,200 kg (7,055 lb) |
Advantages
Hardinge Elite 51
- 508 mm (20 in) Z travel and turning length against 305 mm (12.0 in)
- 356 mm (14 in) maximum turning diameter against 260 mm (10.2 in)
- 51 mm (2 in) bar capacity against 42 mm (1.65 in)
- 200 mm (7.87 in) X travel against 160 mm (6.3 in)
Hardinge Talent 42/65
- 6,000 rpm spindle against 5,000 RPM
- 24 m/min (945 ipm) rapid traverse against 20 m/min (787 IPM)
- Suited to small precision bar parts under 42 mm
Verdict
Choose the Hardinge Talent 42/65 for small precision parts from bar under 42 mm (1.65 in), such as medical and watch components, where 6,000 rpm and 24 m/min (945 ipm) rapids help on short cycles. Choose the Hardinge Elite 51 for longer or larger work, up to 508 mm (20 in) long, 356 mm (14 in) in diameter or 51 mm (2 in) bar, such as aerospace shafts and fittings.