Hardinge Elite 51
Key Specifications
X Travel
Z Travel
Max Spindle
Rapid Traverse
Spindle Power
Max Turn Length
Overview
The Hardinge Elite 51 is a precision CNC turning center from Hardinge, the iconic American brand synonymous with ultra-tight-tolerance turning. The Elite series represents Hardinge's modern production turning line, and the Elite 51 is the mid-range model with a maximum turning diameter of 356 mm (14 in) and a turning length of 508 mm (20 in). It carries forward the Hardinge legacy of sub-micron accuracy that made the company famous in watchmaking, medical, and aerospace precision turning.
The main spindle features a 6.5-inch (165 mm) hydraulic chuck with an A2-5 spindle nose and delivers 11 kW (15 HP) continuous power at speeds up to 5,000 RPM. The spindle is supported by precision angular-contact bearings with thermal compensation, achieving concentricity of 0.003 mm (0.0001 in) TIR. Bar capacity is 51 mm (2 in), which gives the machine its name. Axis travels are 200 mm (7.87 in) in X and 508 mm (20 in) in Z with rapid traverse rates of 20 m/min (787 IPM).
The Elite 51 uses precision-hardened and ground box ways on both axes, which is increasingly rare in this price segment where most competitors have switched to linear guideways. Box ways provide superior vibration damping and surface finish quality, particularly on interrupted cuts and when machining harder materials. The machine's 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) weight-to-envelope ratio is high, indicating a thermally stable, rigid platform.
The Elite 51 runs on a Fanuc 0i-TF Plus control and includes a 12-station VDI turret with live tooling capability as an option. Hardinge's collet-ready spindle design allows quick switching between chuck work and collet work, which is a significant advantage for shops producing small, precision parts. New Elite 51 machines typically price in the $85,000-$130,000 range. Used Hardinge lathes hold their value well, with 2016-2022 units in the $50,000-$90,000 range.
Full Specifications
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| Chuck Size | 6.5 inch (165 mm) hydraulic |
| Max Turning Diameter | 356 mm (14 in) |
| Max Turning Length | 508 mm (20 in) |
| Bar Capacity | 51 mm (2 in) |
| Spindle Nose | A2-5 |
| Max Spindle Speed | 5,000 RPM |
| Spindle Motor Power | 11 kW (15 HP) continuous |
| Spindle Concentricity | 0.003 mm (0.0001 in) TIR |
| X-Axis Travel | 200 mm (7.87 in) |
| Z-Axis Travel | 508 mm (20 in) |
| Rapid Traverse Rate | 20 m/min (787 IPM) |
| Turret | 12-station VDI |
| Guideway Type | Hardened and ground box ways |
| CNC Control | Fanuc 0i-TF Plus |
| Machine Weight | 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) |
Specifications sourced from hardinge.com — verified 2026-03-28
Strengths & Limitations
Strengths
- Hardened and ground box ways on both axes provide superior vibration damping and surface finish compared to linear-guideway competitors
- Spindle concentricity of 0.003 mm TIR delivers out-of-the-box precision that lesser machines cannot match without extensive calibration
- Collet-ready spindle design allows rapid switching between chuck and collet work, a major advantage for small precision part production
- Hardinge brand carries significant weight in aerospace, medical, and defense industries where precision turning reputation matters
- 3,175 kg weight in a compact envelope provides excellent thermal mass and vibration damping for a machine in this size class
- Fanuc 0i-TF Plus control with proven reliability and broad CAM compatibility reduces integration risk
Limitations
- 11 kW spindle power is modest compared to competitors like the Haas ST-20 (22 kW), limiting heavy roughing capability on large diameters
- 200 mm X-travel is relatively short, restricting maximum facing diameter and limiting some large-diameter operations
- Box way design means slower rapid traverse than linear-guideway machines, adding non-cutting time in high-volume production
- Hardinge has faced ownership changes and financial challenges, creating some uncertainty around long-term parts and service availability
Best For
Frequently Asked Questions
01
New Hardinge Elite 51 turning centers typically price between $85,000 and $130,000 depending on live tooling options, C-axis capability, tailstock configuration, and peripheral equipment. A fully loaded Elite 51 with live tooling, sub-spindle, and bar feeder can approach $160,000-$180,000. Used Hardinge lathes hold their value well; 2016-2022 Elite 51 units sell in the $50,000-$90,000 range.
02
Box ways provide greater surface contact area between the slide and the bed compared to linear guideways, resulting in better vibration damping during cutting. This translates to superior surface finish and dimensional consistency, particularly on interrupted cuts and when machining harder materials. The trade-off is slower rapid traverse and higher maintenance requirements for way lubrication. For precision turning applications, most experienced machinists prefer box ways.
03
The Okuma LB3000 EX II is a larger, more powerful machine with box ways and Okuma's proprietary OSP control. It offers more spindle power, larger bar capacity, and longer turning length. The Hardinge Elite 51 is more focused on precision in a smaller envelope, with tighter spindle concentricity specs and Hardinge's collet-ready design. The Okuma is better for heavier production work; the Hardinge is better for precision small-part turning.
04
Yes, the Elite 51's spindle is designed to accept Hardinge collet systems, which is one of the machine's distinctive advantages. Hardinge 5C and 16C collets provide exceptional grip accuracy and concentricity for small-diameter work. Switching between chuck and collet operation is straightforward and doesn't require major spindle modifications. This collet capability is part of Hardinge's heritage and remains a key differentiator.
05
Hardinge has undergone ownership changes in recent years but continues to manufacture and sell machines. Their precision turning reputation remains strong. The key considerations are service response time and parts availability in your region. Before purchasing, confirm the local dealer's capabilities and parts stocking levels. Many shops continue to buy Hardinge specifically because no other brand matches their precision turning accuracy at similar price points.
06
The Elite 51 excels on materials that benefit from its precision and box way rigidity: stainless steels (303, 304, 316, 17-4 PH), titanium alloys (Grade 5, Grade 23), nickel alloys (Inconel 625, 718), brass, and aluminum. The box ways are particularly advantageous on harder materials and interrupted cuts. The 51mm bar capacity and 5,000 RPM spindle are well-matched for efficient production of small to medium parts in these materials.
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