Machine Comparison
Haas DS-20Y vs Haas DS-25Y
Haas Automation vs Haas Automation · Mill-Turn Machines
Summary
The Haas DS-20Y and Haas DS-25Y are both from Haas Automation's mill-turn machines lineup, making this a common upgrade or lineup decision for shops already invested in the Haas Automation ecosystem. The Haas DS-25Y shows specification advantages in 7 categories, though the Haas DS-20Y may still be the better choice depending on your shop's specific needs and the type of work you run. Both machines are proven performers in production environments and represent solid investments for shops in the market for a mill-turn machine.
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Haas DS-20Y | Haas DS-25Y |
|---|---|---|
| Tool Capacity | 12-station BMT-65 turret | 12-station BMT-65 turret |
| Bar Capacity | 63.5 mm (2.5 in) | 76 mm (3.0 in) ▲ |
| Control | Haas Next Generation Control (NGC) | Haas Next Generation Control (NGC) |
| Max Cutting Diameter | 298 mm (11.75 in) | 349 mm (13.75 in) ▲ |
| Max Cutting Length | 572 mm (22.5 in) | 584 mm (23 in) ▲ |
| Max Swing | 533 mm (21 in) | 806 mm (31.75 in) ▲ |
| Main Spindle Speed | 4,000 RPM ▲ | 3,400 RPM |
| Main Spindle Power | 14.9 kW (20 hp) | 22.4 kW (30 hp) ▲ |
| Main Spindle Torque | 203 Nm (150 ft-lb) @ 500 RPM | 407 Nm (300 ft-lb) @ 500 RPM ▲ |
| Main Spindle Nose | A2-6 | A2-6 |
| Main Chuck Size | 203 mm (8 in) | 254 mm (10 in) ▲ |
| Sub Spindle Speed | 4,000 RPM | 4,000 RPM |
| Sub Spindle Power | 11.2 kW (15 hp) | 11.2 kW (15 hp) |
| Sub Spindle Nose | A2-5 | A2-5 |
| Price Range | $130,000 - $165,000 ▲ | $145,000 - $180,000 |
Advantages
Haas DS-20Y
- Superior main spindle speed at 4,000 RPM vs 3,400 RPM
- More competitive pricing at $130,000 - $165,000 compared to $145,000 - $180,000
- Backed by Haas Automation's dealer and service network for parts and support
- Production parts with features on both ends that currently require two operations or two machines
Haas DS-25Y
- Superior bar capacity at 76 mm (3.0 in) vs 63.5 mm (2.5 in)
- Superior max cutting diameter at 349 mm (13.75 in) vs 298 mm (11.75 in)
- Superior max cutting length at 584 mm (23 in) vs 572 mm (22.5 in)
- Superior max swing at 806 mm (31.75 in) vs 533 mm (21 in)
- Superior main spindle power at 22.4 kW (30 hp) vs 14.9 kW (20 hp)
Verdict
The Haas DS-25Y edges ahead on specifications in this comparison, particularly in Bar Capacity and max cutting diameter. However, the Haas DS-20Y remains competitive and may be the better choice depending on price, dealer support in your area, or specific workholding and tooling considerations. Both are capable machines — the best decision comes from running your actual parts and evaluating total cost of ownership including tooling, training, and service.