Citizen Miyano BNX-65MSY
Key Specifications
max bar capacity
draw tube bore
main spindle speed
main spindle power
sub spindle speed
turret stations
Overview
The Citizen Miyano BNX-65MSY is the largest-capacity machine in the BNX platform, stepping up to 65 mm bar capacity for shops that need Miyano precision in a bigger envelope. The MSY designation delivers milling capability, sub-spindle, and Y-axis in a dual-spindle configuration with LFV chip-breaking technology, making it a serious contender for mid-size mill-turn production work.
The main spindle (SP1) reaches 5,000 RPM with 18.5/15 kW (25/20 hp) — the most powerful spindle motor in the BNX family, sized for aggressive roughing at the larger 65 mm bar diameter. The sub-spindle (SP2) also runs to 5,000 RPM with substantial power for backworking operations. The 66 mm draw tube through-hole accommodates 65 mm bar stock with proper clearance. Both spindles accept collet chucks (HS-26/DIN185E/Hainbuch 65) or power chucks.
The 12-station turret accepts live tools at all positions running to 6,000 RPM with 4.0 kW (25 Nm) rotary tool power. Y-axis travel is available for off-center machining. Axis travels measure 168 mm on X1, 349 mm on Z1, 88 mm on X2, and 650 mm on Z2, with rapids of 24 m/min on X1 and Z1. The independent X2 sub-spindle axis enables overlap machining for reduced cycle times.
At 5,500 kg with a footprint of 2,990 x 1,560 mm, the BNX-65MSY is only marginally larger than the 51 mm variant but delivers substantially more material removal capability. Power consumption of 39 kVA reflects the larger spindle motors. The Mitsubishi M830W control manages all axes including superimposition and LFV programming.
LFV chip-breaking technology is particularly valuable at the 65 mm bar size where chip volume during roughing operations is substantial. In stainless steel and titanium, the 65 mm bar diameter generates massive chips that can wrap around the workpiece and cause crashes during unattended operation. LFV eliminates this risk by oscillating the tool to produce short, manageable chip segments.
The BNX-65MSY fills a unique niche in the market — it's one of the few compact dual-spindle mill-turn machines with genuine 65 mm bar capacity, strong milling power, and LFV technology. Competitors in the 65 mm class tend to be larger, more expensive twin-turret machines or full multi-tasking centers. Typical applications include large hydraulic manifold components, oil and gas fittings, industrial valve bodies, and heavy automotive drivetrain parts.
Full Specifications
| Parameter | Value |
|---|---|
| Max Bar Capacity | 65 mm (2.56 in) |
| Draw Tube Bore | 66 mm |
| Main Spindle Speed | 5,000 RPM |
| Main Spindle Power | 18.5/15 kW (25/20 hp) |
| Sub Spindle Speed | 5,000 RPM |
| Turret Stations | 12 |
| Live Tool Stations | 12 |
| Live Tool Speed | 6,000 RPM |
| Live Tool Power | 4.0 kW (25 Nm) |
| Travel X1 | 168 mm (6.61 in) |
| Travel Z1 | 349 mm (13.74 in) |
| Travel X2 | 88 mm (3.46 in) |
| Travel Z2 | 650 mm (25.59 in) |
| Y Axis | Yes |
| Rapid Traverse Xz | 24 m/min (945 ipm) |
| Rapid Traverse Y | 10 m/min (394 ipm) |
| Lfv Chip Breaking | Available |
| Machine Weight | 5,500 |
| Floor Space | 2,990 x 1,560 mm |
| Power Consumption | 39 kVA |
| CNC Control | Mitsubishi M830W |
| Items | BNX-51MSY2 |
| Standard Machining Diameter | SP1/SP2 |
| Power Chuck Type | SP1/SP2 |
| Distance Between Spindle End Faces | 892 mm |
| Motor For Spindle | SP1 Cs |
| Sp2 Cs | 1 / 7.5 kW (15 min / cont.) |
| Max Spindle Speed | SP1/SP2 |
| Type Of Tool Slide | 12st |
| Tool | □20 mm |
| Sleeve | φ25 mm |
| Slide Stroke | X1 axis |
| Z1 Axis | 349 mm |
| Z2 Axis | 650 mm |
| Y1 Axis | ±40 mm |
| X2 Axis | 88 mm |
| Revolving Tool Capacity | Max. 12 |
| Machine Height | 1,775mm |
| Sliding Headstock Type | A20 |
| Bar Work | BNC42 |
| Turning Machine | BNA42CY |
| High Precision Turning Machines | BNA42SY |
| Multi Station Machining Cell | MC20 III |
| Standard Machining Diametersp1 Sp2 | ø65 mm/ø65 mm |
| Power Chuck Typesp1 Sp2 | 6” hollow chuck |
| Distance Between Spindle End Facessp1 Cs | 18.5 / 15 kW (15 min / cont.) |
| Distance Between Spindle End Facessp2 Cs | 1 / 7.5 kW (15 min / cont.) |
| Max Spindle Speedsp1 Sp2 | 5,000 min-1 |
| Slide Strokex1 Axis | 168 mm |
| Slide Strokez1 Axis | 349 mm |
| Slide Strokez2 Axis | 650 mm |
| Slide Strokey1 Axis | ±40 mm |
| Slide Strokex2 Axis | 88 mm |
| Inquiries | Feel free to get in touch with us by phone or online if you have any questions or need advice about any of our products or services. |
Specifications sourced from cmj.citizen.co.jp — verified 2026-03-28
Strengths & Limitations
Strengths
- 65 mm bar capacity with 18.5/15 kW spindle motor provides serious material removal capability that handles large-diameter steel and stainless components without compromise
- 4.0 kW (25 Nm) live tool motor at 6,000 RPM delivers genuine milling capability for deep cross-holes, flats, and complex milled features on large-diameter parts
- LFV chip-breaking technology is critical at 65 mm bar size where massive chip volumes in stainless steel and titanium would otherwise prevent reliable unattended operation
- Compact 2,990 x 1,560 mm footprint is remarkably small for a 65 mm bar capacity dual-spindle mill-turn machine, fitting into spaces where larger competitors cannot
- 650 mm Z2 sub-spindle travel provides ample clearance for part pickup and backworking operations on longer parts
- Shared BNX platform with the 51 mm variant means operators and programmers can transition between machines with minimal retraining
Limitations
- 5,000 RPM maximum spindle speed limits high-speed turning on small-diameter features; shops doing extensive small-bore finishing may want higher RPM capability
- Single turret shared between two spindles restricts simultaneous machining compared to the twin-turret BNE-65MYY platform
- 39 kVA power consumption and 5,500 kg weight represent significant facility requirements for a compact machine
- Higher price point of $260,000+ puts it in range of some full multi-tasking machines that offer more capability
- Sub-spindle capacity may be limited compared to the main spindle's full 65 mm, restricting backworking on the largest diameter parts
Best For
Frequently Asked Questions
01
New BNX-65MSY machines range from approximately $260,000 to $370,000 depending on tooling, LFV option, high-pressure coolant, and bar feeder. The 65 mm capacity and larger spindle motors command a premium over the BNX-51MSY. Used machines are relatively scarce as the BNX-65 is a newer addition to the lineup.
02
The BNE-65MYY is a twin-turret machine with dual 12-station turrets and dual Y-axes (9 axes total), offering true simultaneous machining on both spindles with dedicated tooling. The BNX-65MSY uses a single turret with superimposition control. The BNE is substantially more capable and expensive ($350,000-$500,000+). Choose the BNX for simpler parts and lower investment; choose the BNE when simultaneous multi-tool cutting justifies the premium.
03
At 65 mm diameter, the surface speed and chip cross-section during roughing are substantially larger than at 42 mm or 51 mm. This produces massive chip volumes — especially in stainless steel and titanium — that can wrap around the workpiece and tooling, causing crashes during unattended operation. LFV oscillates the cutting tool to break chips into short segments, making lights-out production reliable even in the most difficult materials.
04
The 65 mm bar capacity requires a feeder rated for 2.5-inch or larger bar stock. Common pairings include the LNS Quick Load Servo 80, Edge FMB Turbo 5-65, and Iemca Master 80 or Boss 552. Hydrodynamic feeders are recommended for parts requiring tighter roundness tolerance on the fed bar.
05
Yes. With power chuck workholding, the BNX-65MSY handles castings, forgings, and pre-cut blanks for chucker-style machining. The 65 mm capacity through the spindle bore also enables bar feeding for production work. Most shops maintain both collet and chuck setups for maximum flexibility across different part families.
06
The machining length depends on the workholding configuration but the Z1 travel of 349 mm and generous Z2 travel of 650 mm accommodate a wide range of part lengths. For bar-fed work, the practical machining length is determined by the distance between spindles and the part's length-to-diameter ratio for stability.
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