Machine Comparison
Haas CM-1 vs JTEKT FV1165
Haas Automation vs JTEKT · Vertical Machining Centers
Summary
The Haas CM-1 from Haas Automation and JTEKT FV1165 from JTEKT are direct competitors in the vertical machining centers category. The Haas CM-1 leads in max spindle speed (30,000 RPM vs 8,000 RPM (standard); 12,000 RPM optional). The JTEKT FV1165 leads in x travel (1,100 mm (43.3 in) vs 305 mm (12 in)). The JTEKT FV1165 leads in tool capacity (30 tools (standard) vs 20-pocket carousel). The JTEKT FV1165 shows specification advantages in 9 categories, though the Haas CM-1 may still be the better choice depending on your shop's specific needs and the type of work you run. Both machines are proven performers in production environments and represent solid investments for shops in the market for a vertical machining center.
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Haas CM-1 | JTEKT FV1165 |
|---|---|---|
| X-Axis Travel | 305 mm (12 in) | 1,100 mm (43.3 in) ▲ |
| Y-Axis Travel | 254 mm (10 in) | 650 mm (25.6 in) ▲ |
| Z-Axis Travel | 356 mm (14 in) | 600 mm (23.6 in) ▲ |
| Max Spindle Speed | 30,000 RPM ▲ | 8,000 RPM (standard); 12,000 RPM optional |
| Spindle Power | 3.7 kW (5 hp) | 15 kW (20 hp) ▲ |
| Tool Capacity | 20-pocket carousel | 30 tools (standard) ▲ |
| Table Size | 572 x 254 mm (22.5 x 10 in) | 1,300 x 650 mm (51.2 x 25.6 in) ▲ |
| Control | Haas Next Generation Control (NGC) | Fanuc 0i-MF Plus |
| Spindle Taper | ISO 20 | CAT 40 / BT 40 |
| Rapid Traverse X | 19.2 m/min (757 ipm) | 36 m/min (1,417 ipm) ▲ |
| Rapid Traverse Y | 19.2 m/min (757 ipm) | 36 m/min (1,417 ipm) ▲ |
| Rapid Traverse Z | 19.2 m/min (757 ipm) | 30 m/min (1,181 ipm) ▲ |
| Price Range | $78,000 - $95,000 ▲ | $120,000 - $200,000 (estimated) |
Advantages
Haas CM-1
- Higher maximum spindle speed of 30,000 RPM enables faster cutting on aluminum and non-ferrous materials
- More competitive pricing at $78,000 - $95,000 compared to $120,000 - $200,000 (estimated)
- Backed by Haas Automation's dealer and service network for parts and support
- Medical device manufacturers machining small implants, instruments, and components
JTEKT FV1165
- Greater x travel of 1,100 mm (43.3 in) accommodates larger workpieces
- Greater y travel of 650 mm (25.6 in) accommodates larger workpieces
- Greater z travel of 600 mm (23.6 in) accommodates larger workpieces
- More spindle power at 15 kW (20 hp) for aggressive material removal in harder materials
- Larger tool magazine with 30 tools (standard) capacity reduces manual tool changes on complex parts
Verdict
The JTEKT FV1165 edges ahead on specifications in this comparison, particularly in X Travel and Y Travel. However, the Haas CM-1 remains competitive and may be the better choice depending on price, dealer support in your area, or specific workholding and tooling considerations. Both are capable machines — the best decision comes from running your actual parts and evaluating total cost of ownership including tooling, training, and service.