Machine Comparison
Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 vs Citizen Cincom L32
Citizen Machinery vs Citizen Machinery · Swiss-Type Lathes
Summary
The Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 and Citizen Cincom L32 are both from Citizen Machinery's swiss-type lathes lineup, making this a common upgrade or lineup decision for shops already invested in the Citizen Machinery ecosystem. The Citizen Cincom L32 shows specification advantages in 6 categories, though the Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 may still be the better choice depending on your shop's specific needs and the type of work you run. Both machines are proven performers in production environments and represent solid investments for shops in the market for a swiss-type lathe.
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 | Citizen Cincom L32 |
|---|---|---|
| Control | Mitsubishi Meldas (Citizen software) | Mitsubishi Meldas 70LPC (Citizen software) |
| Max Bar Capacity | 20 mm (0.787 in), 25 mm (1.0 in) option | 32 mm (1.25 in) ▲ |
| Max Machining Diameter | 20 mm (0.787 in) | 32 mm (1.25 in) [38 mm optional] ▲ |
| Max Machining Length | 200 mm (7.87 in) | 320 mm (12.6 in) per chucking ▲ |
| Main Spindle Speed | 10,000 RPM ▲ | 8,000 RPM |
| Back Spindle Speed | 10,000 RPM ▲ | 8,000 RPM |
| Number Of Axes | 5-axis simultaneous (B-axis) | 7 (VIII) / 8 (X) / 9 (XII with B-axis) ▲ |
| Guide Bushing | Yes / Guide-bushless option | Yes (standard) / Non-guide bushing option |
| Lfv Chip Breaking | Yes (simultaneous dual-spindle) | Available |
| Power Consumption | 8.3 kVA rated / 4.5 kVA average | 11 kVA ▲ |
| Machine Weight | 2,680 kg (5,908 lbs) ▲ | 2,500 kg (5,512 lb) |
| Price Range | $250,000 - $400,000 | $200,000 - $400,000 ▲ |
Advantages
Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5
- Superior main spindle speed at 10,000 RPM vs 8,000 RPM
- Superior back spindle speed at 10,000 RPM vs 8,000 RPM
- Superior machine weight at 2,680 kg (5,908 lbs) vs 2,500 kg (5,512 lb)
Citizen Cincom L32
- Superior max bar capacity at 32 mm (1.25 in) vs 20 mm (0.787 in), 25 mm (1.0 in) option
- Superior max machining diameter at 32 mm (1.25 in) [38 mm optional] vs 20 mm (0.787 in)
- Superior max machining length at 320 mm (12.6 in) per chucking vs 200 mm (7.87 in)
- Superior number of axes at 7 (VIII) / 8 (X) / 9 (XII with B-axis) vs 5-axis simultaneous (B-axis)
- Superior power consumption at 11 kVA vs 8.3 kVA rated / 4.5 kVA average
Verdict
The Citizen Cincom L32 edges ahead on specifications in this comparison, particularly in max bar capacity and max machining diameter. However, the Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 remains competitive and may be the better choice depending on price, dealer support in your area, or specific workholding and tooling considerations. Both are capable machines — the best decision comes from running your actual parts and evaluating total cost of ownership including tooling, training, and service.