Machine Comparison
Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 vs Citizen Cincom L20
Citizen Machinery vs Citizen Machinery · Swiss-Type Lathes
Summary
The Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 and Citizen Cincom L20 are both from Citizen Machinery's swiss-type lathes lineup, making this a common upgrade or lineup decision for shops already invested in the Citizen Machinery ecosystem. The Citizen Cincom L20 shows specification advantages in 3 categories, though the Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 may still be the better choice depending on your shop's specific needs and the type of work you run. Both machines are proven performers in production environments and represent solid investments for shops in the market for a swiss-type lathe.
Specifications Comparison
| Specification | Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 | Citizen Cincom L20 |
|---|---|---|
| Control | Mitsubishi Meldas (Citizen software) | Mitsubishi Meldas (Citizen software) |
| Max Bar Capacity | 20 mm (0.787 in), 25 mm (1.0 in) option | 20 mm (0.787 in) |
| Max Machining Diameter | 20 mm (0.787 in) | 20 mm (0.787 in) |
| Max Machining Length | 200 mm (7.87 in) | 205 mm (8.1 in) ▲ |
| Main Spindle Speed | 10,000 RPM | 10,000 RPM |
| Main Spindle Power | 2.2 / 3.7 / 5.5 kW (3 / 5 / 7.4 HP) | 3.7 kW (5 HP) ▲ |
| Number Of Axes | 5-axis simultaneous (B-axis) | 5 (up to 7 with C1/C2) |
| Guide Bushing | Yes / Guide-bushless option | Yes (standard) / Non-guide bushing option |
| Lfv Chip Breaking | Yes (simultaneous dual-spindle) | Available on select models |
| Price Range | $250,000 - $400,000 | $150,000 - $280,000 ▲ |
Advantages
Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5
- Backed by Citizen Machinery's dealer and service network for parts and support
- Medical implant manufacturers producing spinal screws, dental abutments, and orthopedic components with compound-angle features
Citizen Cincom L20
- Superior max machining length at 205 mm (8.1 in) vs 200 mm (7.87 in)
- Superior main spindle power at 3.7 kW (5 HP) vs 2.2 / 3.7 / 5.5 kW (3 / 5 / 7.4 HP)
- More competitive pricing at $150,000 - $280,000 compared to $250,000 - $400,000
Verdict
The Citizen Cincom L20 edges ahead on specifications in this comparison, particularly in max machining length and main spindle power. However, the Citizen Cincom L20 Type XII B5 remains competitive and may be the better choice depending on price, dealer support in your area, or specific workholding and tooling considerations. Both are capable machines — the best decision comes from running your actual parts and evaluating total cost of ownership including tooling, training, and service.